78. Escape the Time-Money Trap: How Creative Thinking Transforms Service Provider Businesses with Jessica Pye

In this episode, business mentor Jessica Pye shares how integrating her fine art background transformed her coaching practice. Her "CEO Paint and Sip" retreat sold out a month in advance because it offered virtual assistants and service providers something essential - space for million-dollar ideas to emerge away from strategy sessions. Jessica explains that creative activities quiet the mind, allowing innovative business solutions to flow naturally.

Jessica reveals her journey from inconsistent income spikes to building a sustainable business model. She cautions against relying on launch-based income, explaining how she restructured her offers to generate consistent revenue year-round. For service providers looking to escape the feast-or-famine cycle, Jessica provides a framework for creating predictable cash flow without sacrificing wellbeing.

The most powerful insight? Bringing your full self to business - what we both call your "unique magic." Jessica found that the creativity she initially hid became her greatest business differentiator, offering a fresh perspective on scaling with authenticity in a crowded marketplace.

Key Points Covered:

✨ How creativity functions as a powerful business tool for clearing mental blocks and generating innovative ideas

✨ Why your million-dollar business ideas rarely come while staring at your laptop or Canva templates

✨ The surprising connection between creativity, trauma reduction, and business breakthrough moments

✨ Why a diversified offer suite creates more sustainable income than relying on just a few high-income months per year

✨ Practical strategies for creating a business model that supports consistent monthly revenue instead of feast-or-famine cycles

✨ The importance of giving yourself permission to bring all sides of yourself into your business offerings

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[00:00:00] Andrea Elibero: Andrea here, your host and passionate business coach and scaling strategist for soulful service providers and coaches. Welcome to another episode of Solepreneur Scaling Stories. Have you ever wanted to look behind the curtain of your fellow entrepreneur's business to see what actually went into scaling it?

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[00:01:10] Okay. Okay. Hello and welcome to Solepreneur Scaling Stories. I am joined today by Jessica Pie, who is a business coach and mentor. However, I feel like she is much more than that. So, Jessica, please say hello and let everybody know what it is that you do. 

[00:01:27] Jessica Pye: Hello everyone. My name is Jess, and you're absolutely right.

[00:01:31] So I would say I am a business and mindset mentor. However, that definitely comes with a creative twist because I am a fine art graduate and I am a creative and an artist at heart. And what I've realized over the past year, and obviously we'll be speaking about the. The scaling stories and the, the, the whole journey of my business.

[00:01:52] But what I really realized over the years is that that artist is just as important a piece in the way that I work with my clients. And so [00:02:00] it's a very unique approach to business. It's not just the classic strategy. It is so important as well. But I definitely have a very creative approach to the way that I work with my clients.

[00:02:11] Andrea Elibero: Okay. I am obsessed with this because it is so different and so unique, and that also in and of itself is so inspiring because you're able to bring in your own unique magic into your business and create something so different, and that probably is the reason why it is so successful. So can you talk a little bit, before we get into your journey, can you talk a little bit more about the art itself and what that actually looks like and how that can help somebody in their business journey?

[00:02:41] Jessica Pye: Absolutely. So over the past year, I have really, I come to, oh, got hair stuck. Am my earing there. Um, I've really come to see the importance of creativity when it comes to building success in your business, but more than just success, building your version of success and your dream business. Now [00:03:00] over, I would say the past six months I did.

[00:03:02] I created the two most pivotal pieces of my business that really set in stone this well, actually three, um, that really set in stone this like creative side of the way that I work with my clients. And it started with quantum creative, my in-person retreat day. And this was a CEO paint and sip with all the business strategy and my brand, which is fun and money with all of that included.

[00:03:26] And this was in Manchester and that was. Well, the first thing I'll say, and this is so important to anyone listening, is for so long I didn't feel like my creative piece of me was ready to be like seen or paid by my audience. Oh. When, yeah, when I, when I launched Quantum Creative, 50% of spaces sold out within 24 hours, and we were fully booked and sold out before, over a month before the event because it was so needed.

[00:03:55] And I think because it was seen as so different now at that event, I had [00:04:00] clients reflect back to me that it was the first time that their brain had felt quiet in God knows how long, and this really showed me that. When we are looking at our unique way of doing things, we have to cut out the noise of the way everyone else is doing things, and this is why creativity is such an important piece of it.

[00:04:18] It also led to My Fun and Money Playbook, which is a guided creative journal for business owners, which is. Exactly what it says. Basically, it's a, a guided journal full of hands-on creative activities for the business owner. But most importantly, it's a real permission slip that everyone is creative and you don't have to see yourself as an artist.

[00:04:40] You don't have to do a fine art degree to see yourself as creative, because being an entrepreneur is inherently creative. 

[00:04:48] Andrea Elibero: I love that. I'm so obsessed with this because one, because. I think it's so needed. And so a little behind the scenes of the podcasting, what goes on is that we were, we have [00:05:00] recorded a few minutes of this and had some technical difficulties.

[00:05:04] So you had, in that time, you had brought up something so relevant and so important, and the reason that, or one of the reasons that doing something like. Being creative, doing art is so helpful is because when we, when we have a business, when we're doing these things, a lot of our traumas, a lot of our limiting beliefs, like all of these things that get brought up and this is one way that is so loving to ourselves to be able to move through that.

[00:05:34] So can you speak to that a little bit more? 

[00:05:37] Jessica Pye: Absolutely. I'm so glad we were able to revisit this conversation on purpose because it's so important. Yeah. I'm so glad I didn't black out. So glad I didn't black out whilst talking on the past one, because that usually happens when you're so in flow. Um, so. As we know, running a business can so easily feel like taking yourself through a round of therapy in itself because, you know, it brings up [00:06:00] the feelings of rejection.

[00:06:01] It brings up the phase of being seen and all of these things, which something is something I also do with my clients is deep subconscious work is it's all reflected in how we were taught to be like, what we were taught to believe about what those things meant in childhood. Now, because of this, a lot of this work can be really heavy now.

[00:06:20] It's not always beneficial to spend your entire week doing this heavy work while strike whilst trying to show up as your best self and be committed to selling every day and, and moving the needle forward every single day because you're a, you're a human being and. These things are heavy to hold and heavy to navigate.

[00:06:38] Now, one of my clients last year shared with me, don't ask me where this fact is from. I've heard it through word of mouth. Please don't fact check me. Um, but it really, really stuck with me that as there's a. My client is a therapist in America and she shared, 'cause she works a lot with creativity, that as creativity and [00:07:00] spontaneity increase trauma and PTSD symptoms decrease.

[00:07:05] Now to me, this is so interesting as a, from a business perspective because. You know, we all have, most of us have trauma in some capacity, and I'm not, I'm not really gonna speak on that piece because that it can be so personal and so unique. But in terms of how much capacity that takes up in your brain when you are in flow state, when you are being creative, when you are creating new.

[00:07:28] Memories and experiences. It opens up the space for those ideas to flow through and those unique perspectives on business, on what you want and on the way that you want things to run. But also, as we've said in the previous recording, we've all had an idea come through in the shower. We've all had an idea come through in on a, on a walk or in the bath.

[00:07:48] Mm-hmm. I used to take a whiteboard in the bath with me because I had so many ideas come through in there. 

[00:07:54] Andrea Elibero: That's hilarious. I love that. Yeah. 

[00:07:57] Jessica Pye: But genuinely the number of [00:08:00] ideas that come through. 'cause I spend every evening creating, and if, if you were a fly on the wall in my apartment every evening, you would see me either reading, reading, fantasy fiction, um, coloring in.

[00:08:10] Playing on my iPad, playing my games, and I think I really realized that that is rare for people who don't see themselves as creative. Mm-hmm. But now, especially after the retreat day, I have clients that have weekly paint and sips with themselves after always identifying as, oh, I'm not creative, I'm not artistic, actually.

[00:08:29] And anyone is like, we all are. 

[00:08:32] Andrea Elibero: And this is helping them to, just to reiterate this, is helping them to grow their business because now they're ha they're making space, they're clearing their brain of all the gunk that's in there. 'cause when you're sitting in front of your laptop, your amazing, brilliant ideas, that is not where they come through.

[00:08:47] Right. So it's kind of like you're giving yourself this space and this permission to step away and really remove yourself from this, and then these ideas come and they're more likely to come. Is, is that, is that accurate in your view? [00:09:00] 

[00:09:00] Jessica Pye: Yeah, I, I always say, you know, when was the last time your million dollar idea came through while sitting, staring at your conva?

[00:09:08] Do. Yeah. Yeah. Like, let's do this. Absolutely. Never. We've all got, we've all got a memory of that idea dropping in when we least expect it. Maybe it isn't whilst you're painting, because maybe you are someone who doesn't, um, identify as a creative, but. In the space that you've created. That's where the ideas flow in.

[00:09:28] Now, something that, as I said over the past six months, I've really started to, to integrate into our business. My mastermind is called North Star Mastermind and it's all about finding your North star in business. Don't worry, this isn't a sell, doors are closed. Um, but this is really relevant because, um.

[00:09:46] Uh, something I'm really passionate about is finding your way of doing business and also being your version of a leader. Now, I run a fun and money business because I am a fine artist. I'm a creative, it's so [00:10:00] aligned with me. It's a product of me letting all sides of me be paid and be seen. Now, for you, you might have a completely unique way of living of.

[00:10:09] Of doing business. And you might have a completely unique perspective on it, but because you are surrounded by the noise of the next 10 K month, this perfect strategy, this cookie cutter strategy, which, you know, serve the purpose in some ways, we know I'm also a strategy queen, um, but it's not your way and.

[00:10:29] Your clients pay you for your way, but if you don't know your way, yes, you can create income, but it might not necessarily be your dream business because it's not necessarily an extension of you and your unique way of doing things. So to me, creativity opens up the space to discover that and to to see what falls through into that space.

[00:10:48] Andrea Elibero: You know what it is. So cool about having a podcast and putting out like a random invitation on threads is somehow I have had [00:11:00] so many guests like, like we have not talked before this, right? Like this is our first meeting and I've had so many guests like this who are. Like where our values are so aligned, especially when it comes to business, because I'm like, yes, this is exactly, I mean, I don't do it with art, but like, I'm like, yes, this is exactly what I do with my clients, right?

[00:11:16] This is exactly what I preach and it makes me feel so amazing when I have other people who are like in this same camp of, you know, of how they're thinking and how they run their business. Because it is different and because it is not the thing that we always see, and it makes me so happy that there's so many people out there that are helping people to discover the same thing, right?

[00:11:36] That like you can build your business like a business that you actually love, that supports your version of a dream life, that you get to build it based on the things that, what I call your unique magic and the things that you know that like you actually love doing and can have a success. Successful business and you are proof of this and your clients as well are proof of this.

[00:11:54] So anyhow, I just really love that. I'm like, yes, so please. So obsessed. 

[00:11:56] Jessica Pye: It's funny. 

[00:11:57] Andrea Elibero: Yeah, it, 

[00:11:58] Jessica Pye: it's funny because I also say your [00:12:00] unique magic No way. Stop. Yeah. The exact words I use, so I'm obsessed. Um, you're absolutely right. Yeah. And I do think as well that. Well, I've been in the coaching industry since 20, well, I started my journey in mm-hmm.

[00:12:18] Building a personal brand. I really wanted to share information about law of attraction and manifestation. Mm-hmm. So much so I graduated uni and posted on my personal Instagram. 'cause all of my work and my sculptures that I made were all about the law of attraction and the glimmers of everyday life.

[00:12:34] Like it's. It's was there, it was just the wrong medium, like coaching is the right medium. But I would, I'd make PDFs, I of manifestation and I'd be like, who wants one for free? Because I just wanted to share and I wanted people to know about it. Um, and so that was in lockdown, well before lockdown. And I've been in the coaching industry now coming up to my fifth or sixth year.

[00:12:55] And I think that. There was a massive rise through lockdown, me [00:13:00] included, like this is no shade to the rise of the coaching industry through lockdown. We all wanted a life that we wanted to call our own, and we were given the space. You know, there was a, there were many silver linings around lockdown in, in those pieces, and we were given the space to create that.

[00:13:13] I know for me, I was working in hospitality. Can't be a waitress when the whole country's locked down. The whole world's locked down. Um, and so I had the space to create that, but what I also saw was a lot of people chasing the high of like the money side. Okay. And, you know, checking the boxes of the strategy and very quickly maybe they hit those high months.

[00:13:33] And this is my story, but I've committed to stay. They were like, oh God, this is not the life that I thought it was. I feel like maybe they've got imposter syndrome coming through, they're burning out, trying to chase those months, fill in the calendar. Um, and they're, they're kind of building this narrative that they can only build that success one way I.

[00:13:52] This is exactly what happened to me. So again, no shade, but a lot of these people left the industry because they probably couldn't see another way of doing it. [00:14:00] For me, I still knew it was my path. I just didn't know how to let both, like all sides of me be paid. And I think it's so beautiful because I feel like we are already coming into an era where we're all doing it our own way.

[00:14:11] And it's not by, you know, throwing shade on the way someone else does it. And actually there's so much more freedom to do that now. And I think for me, just looking at like the journey of this podcast episode in itself, for me that was realizing that it wasn't just the money making like SaaS queen side of me that was worthy of being paid and that people wanted to pay and invest in.

[00:14:34] It was a creative side, which obviously was shown very quickly. As soon as I brought it up, everything just exploded. 

[00:14:40] Andrea Elibero: So cool. And yeah, I also had a similar journey in terms of building my business in a certain way and letting my business lead me and experiencing a severe burnout and then going back to the drawing board.

[00:14:53] And that's where all of sort of like all the things that I did is where I was to help myself is that, oh, this is what [00:15:00] other people need too. So they don't fall into that same trap. And it's really. I feel like it's almost, especially with service providers, because people think like, oh, I just, I get clients and I get booked out and I built an agency, and like they don't realize there are so many other ways to do things and that you don't have to follow this exact path.

[00:15:17] So I love that we're having this conversation. And since you created this lovely segue, I would love to talk about your journey. A bit more and kind of the ups and downs and that and some of the things that you have learned. So you were talking about, you started it, so lockdown, pandemic, all those things.

[00:15:34] You started getting into coaching, and let's talk about the burnout and what led you to that. Mm. 

[00:15:41] Jessica Pye: Yes, of course. And this is where all my strategy magic is gonna come through as well. Um, so very quick rundown. Like I said, I graduated in with a fine art degree in 2018. I had looked into, um, coaching before I graduated.

[00:15:57] I was living in Rome, um, as an au [00:16:00] pair, and I knew that I was feeling really passionate about this stuff. But as a third line, I, um, was like Jess. Finish your degree. You are not picking up another thing, another another passion project, because you want to succeed in this degree, and I knew it would distract me.

[00:16:14] So then when lockdown hit, I'd already created an Instagram and a blog all about manifestation and law of attraction. I. Fast forward. Trained as a coach over lockdown. Launched my business on New Year's Eve on 20, in 2020. So heading straight into 2021. Um, I'd very quickly realized I really loved working with business owners or aspiring business owners because I just love the, I just think we have that different zest for a bigger life, and that's not to say other non-business owners do, but we've got that kind of.

[00:16:47] We've got that thing of doing things differently, and I just really love that. So I very, over the time after building up my business, went from a mindset coach to a business coach. Um, and then [00:17:00] in so 2021, I didn't have a mentor. We all know how important mentors are, especially when you've never been a business owner before.

[00:17:07] Um, and so I didn't get my first hire, my first mentor until like nine months in. So towards the end of 2021. Then I had one for like, basically ever since then. Mm-hmm. Um, and 2022 was my blow up year to, I had never had my first 5K month to finish in the year on six figures, had a 20 k month, had a 50 5K quarter, and that's in pounds.

[00:17:30] So if you do dollars, it's 70, $80,000. Um, in for Q4. Now this is important because I, oh. I loved it. Obviously vibes, we love money. Um, however, my business was not set up to sustain that month on month on month. I hit those months. So my first 5K month was an, I'm gonna speak in pounds here 'cause obviously I'm uk.

[00:17:56] But no, do it, 

[00:17:57] Andrea Elibero: it. You're good. So it's almost like, not quite double, but so [00:18:00] pounds, dollars, or more? Yeah, we're good. Let's go. 

[00:18:02] Jessica Pye: Yeah. Dollars or more. So if you're in the US or you use dollars, just go bigger. Yeah. Um, which is my advice for everyone anyway, but I, my first 5K month was a nine K month. My first 10 K month was a 21 K month.

[00:18:14] It was very quantum leap energy, but. Ignoring the 5K. 'cause obviously that's quite simple to hit in other offers and you know, mid to low ticket and stuff. When I hit that 21 K month, I was launching a six month mastermind and I was also selling one-to-one spaces. Now, from this I did have a couple high, high five figure months following that 20 K month.

[00:18:36] Um, but then as soon as January, 2023 hit, I was. Realizing that I'd mapped out for 2023, this 500 K year, um, and when I mapped it out. All it was based on was selling out my one-to-one, selling out my mastermind, and then doing it all over again. But when we look at the number of launches that is, or the number of months that that would happen in, [00:19:00] that's probably about three to four months over 12.

[00:19:02] So what. On God, screen Earth is happening on those other eight, nine months, you know nothing. And so whilst I had these massive high months because my office suite wasn't built to bring, to match those months in other offers, right? It led to massive spikes in income, but massive dips. Now, if you know me and if anyone on here has already.

[00:19:23] Learned from me or been in my world or listened to my story before. You'll know I speak about a big sabotage season, and this is what I labeled it as for so long of like, oh, I leaned back. I had huge imposter syndrome, and to an extent, yes, because I was not handling my money very well, which is why I'm very passionate about money management in my spaces as well, and CEO identity.

[00:19:44] T around money. I wasn't saving for tax, I wasn't doing all these things. I also had massive triggers coming up that I hadn't looked at from school around being seen around being canceled. You know, as we said. Um. And I massively leaned back [00:20:00] and stopped looking at, you know, building out that office suite.

[00:20:02] But what I will also say is I think that it was probably a little bit unhelpful for me all these years to be calling it my sabotage season, because I think in a lot of ways my business was just not set up in that way, in a way to sustain it, because I didn't have that information and I didn't actually understand that at the time.

[00:20:20] Mm-hmm. All of this was big, up and down, rocky. That's all you really need to know about that year. It was giving dark night of the soul. It was giving client trauma. Went full time in our business. It honestly, it was just chaos and carnage. Um, but I spent since then building it. Back up. And actually I have the best business I've ever had in this season right now.

[00:20:43] And I am stacking up this business in a more diversified way. And I think that is the number one lesson in scaling. I'm not gonna lie, I can't really remember the question you asked before this. I know it was my story. But what I will say is, um, that is, that is the journey. And that's [00:21:00] why I say, you know, my.

[00:21:01] My wisdom and my lessons must impact my clients as a third line, as a three five in human design. My trial and error is your fast track. It's a success. Not that it's always fast track. Yeah. It's a much more streamlined process. 

[00:21:14] Andrea Elibero: So with your, and thank you for sharing all of that, because I think it's interesting 'cause people do get almost blinded by the numbers or it's like, oh, this means I'm successful if I hit this month this much, you know, per year or whatever that means I've made it.

[00:21:28] And what they don't realize is that the goals. Posts always move. And what does that even mean, right? Like, why do we care to hit these numbers? Do they mean something to you or are you just doing it because that's what the gurus on Instagram say that you need to hit. So it's really interesting. So I love when people share these types of stories because you're like, wait, why am I doing this?

[00:21:48] Right? And like, and. Despite having financially suc financial success, it wasn't set up in the way that was supportive to you as a human. And it's so important to then to [00:22:00] realize that. So if anybody can take anything away from this, it's before you, like just blindly start following the money. It's the why.

[00:22:06] Why are you doing this? What do you want? Like what's the purpose of the money and what is this dream life that you want? You know, and things like that. So I'm really curious from you on your end, what, when you realize this, right? Okay. Like, this is not how I want my business to be. What did you do then?

[00:22:22] Well, internally, like inner workwise in order to then kind of like reset things and start them the way they needed to be. 

[00:22:30] Jessica Pye: So it's actually really funny because it almost feels like, I didn't realize until I've looked back over the past week because I'm actually currently currently selling an offer, specifically helping this kind of problem.

[00:22:41] Um, but I only launched it last week and so as I've been really doing the deep work, I'm like, oh, wow. Like. My business is now not how it was, but it wasn't truthfully a line in the sand. Oh my gosh. Because for so long I just saw it as self-sabotage, kind of like my fault. Um, you can [00:23:00] do all the deep dives in what that means internally, as you know, as we said, it's always bloody therapy in this business.

[00:23:07] Um, but I think it was more a case of. I started working with a new mentor over last year and as I was bringing, you know, the Quantum creative event, my journal, my mastermind, so the mastermind was a, the North Star Mastermind was a massive permission slip because I had a five figure 24 hours on the first day of launch after not having any pre-sale or prime.

[00:23:29] And it was very much like, by the way, I have a mastermind come in who wants in? And people moved and it was so beautiful to see that per like almost permission slip in the creativity because there is. An online creativity workshop is one of our calls and an in-person event in Manchester and things like that.

[00:23:45] But, um, as I started looking at, okay, well I think part of it is mes is keeping my lived experience as a, as a survival guide of what I don't want to repeat without. Mm-hmm. Being too scared to fall [00:24:00] into the full. Back to where I was because I've been, as I was doing this, obviously I am still launching high level office with the one-to-one and the Mastermind, and of course having high months from that.

[00:24:09] But what I'm really noticing now is I'm going, okay, well what's filling in those gaps? Or how am I bringing new people into my world during those times? I'm not available to slow down and to lean back as soon as I've hit one month. And I think just going back to what you said there, when we look at chasing the numbers, I say to my clients, you know, um, if you want a six figure year, for example, you could have a.

[00:24:34] Three at 2, 2 40 K months and a 20 K month, right? Or you could have 12 8.3 k months. Now obviously we don't wanna coast, so 12 times, 8.3, you'd still wanna be growing and building your income, however, well, you really wanna look at how your business model could bring in 12 times 8.3 instead of three times 33 because.

[00:24:56] If it's three times 33, you've got nine months of zero [00:25:00] pounds. If your business model is only set up in that way. Um, so I think it's been looking at that, you know, looking at where are the gaps and how can I make sure those gaps are being filled? And my business isn't dependent on 3, 2, 3 high months in a year.

[00:25:13] Andrea Elibero: Hmm. And it feels more, more safe kind of when you do it that way. When you're kind of like, okay, like, oh, I see in the notifications, like money's coming in. Like that feels safer. 

[00:25:21] Jessica Pye: Yeah. Than 'cause you really have to, sorry. You really have to look at how you're gonna feel in those months. Yeah. Where you're maybe not hitting those time months and whether you can hold that as an identity as well.

[00:25:31] Because if you are someone that makes your results mean something about you, amazing that you've had a 20 k January, but if you've got. 2K, Feb, March, April, may, right. Are you gonna be able to hold that leadership identity or are you gonna make it mean you are a failure when actually you are not unshakeable, but your business, sorry, you are unshakeable, but your business isn't, you know?

[00:25:52] Mm-hmm. That's what we wanna check in with. 

[00:25:55] Andrea Elibero: Yeah. Amazing. And I wanna go back to the, uh, so in [00:26:00] your transition then, this is when you brought in more of yourself and your art. Is that correct? 

[00:26:06] Jessica Pye: I, in a way it was every, I think everyone always knew I was creative. Yeah. Because you are always watching me paint on my stories in the evening and stuff with my audience, but it was more of a, oh, I can actually blend the two together in my offers.

[00:26:18] Mm-hmm. Rather than my art. It's more like bringing the creativity to them and even just in a way of the content I was creating and the, rather than it being, here's how you're gonna hit this amount. Yes. I still do that. 'cause I, yes, I still love that part of me. And it was more like. This is something I've learned in my, in my flow space that I want you to learn too.

[00:26:40] Andrea Elibero: Hmm. Did it, was it something that just came to you or was it like almost like, because I know you talked about, give yourself permission to show that part and I'm curious where, what the impetus was for that. 

[00:26:53] Jessica Pye: So I. It's a little bit hazy because it was almost like the pieces clicked together over about a week [00:27:00] or so.

[00:27:00] Oh wow. Yeah. Um, but last, just before I launched Quantum Creative, I had very recently just started working with my mentor and I think I said to her like, you know, I do VIP days with my clients and I would love to do something like. Pottery painting and then we go and do coaching and then we do the business stuff.

[00:27:18] Um, and I was thinking, you know, how can we make it happen? Then obviously I was trying to piece together, okay, I'm in Manchester, so what would that look like? How would it work? You know, just the logistics and then something just, oh, what am I even talking about? No, I know exactly how it happened and it's so classic.

[00:27:35] Sorry, I dunno how, how I forgot about this. Have you seen or heard of the book The Artist Way? 

[00:27:41] Andrea Elibero: Yes. Mm-hmm. Of course. Yeah, 

[00:27:44] Jessica Pye: of course. Um, so I, yeah, it's one of those, isn't it? Well, I basically over over summer, like September last year, I really felt this need to just connect back in with myself in my personal life and, you know.

[00:27:56] Mm-hmm. Um. Find my own individuality. I've been in a [00:28:00] relationship for five years. It can be very easy to merge with the person you live with. And I was like, where's my life? Where's my like, stuff behind the scenes and just all of those exciting pieces that make you feel so unique. And so I bought the artist way and I started going on artist dates every week.

[00:28:17] And the first one I went to, I went to a co, a coffee shop, and I just started writing poetry, which I've actually never done before. It was a massive permission slip in itself, and I sat there. Straight through. You know, creative retreat day or like bring creativity into my business. And then I had a hot seat call with my mentor with all the, the girls in the space that I'm in.

[00:28:38] And I said, I'm kind of thinking like a CEO paint and sip. And everyone just looked up and was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. In the, in the chat. I made sales on that call. It was, it was ridiculous, but it was actually through the artist's way. Then that's also where the journal came from as well. Like again, the space, giving yourself the space in those artist dates.

[00:28:59] You're not looking [00:29:00] at your laptop, you're not checking your notifications. You're creating that space for you. 

[00:29:04] Andrea Elibero: Yes. Oh my God, I love it so much. Okay, so in your journey and your client and what you've seen in helping people to grow their businesses, can you share your biggest tip for somebody who wants to scale and grow?

[00:29:16] Yes, of course. 

[00:29:17] Jessica Pye: So, um, it is really a roundup of what we've spoken about on here. I've got two pieces, but I will keep them short because I do have a tendency to yap. Um, so we've got one strategic and one identity. The strategic tip is don't think that one high month will inevitably lead to consistent high months.

[00:29:38] You really wanna make sure that your business is set up that way. And if it's not, that's amazing still because it's your step closer. Your one high month is amazing evidence that consistent high months are on their way to you. But make sure that your business is set up because the consistency is gonna create way more money than one singular high month and then an income dip afterwards.

[00:29:58] Now, the second [00:30:00] piece is the identity piece, and this is to really get clear on all parts of you and all parts that you want to be seen in your business. Like I said, the biggest. Shift for me in my leadership, and not just my money, but like being invited to speak on stages, being paid to work with nine figure companies, is allowing all of myself to be seen, allowing all of myself to be loved, appreciated, and paid by my audience.

[00:30:28] Give them the chance. If there's ever a part of you that you're like, oh, is that too much at, oh, that's not business focused. Why don't you let it, why don't you see what happens? I had a client say to me, she was hiring me because she loves how I dance on tables at weekend, at the weekend whilst I'm on my night out.

[00:30:45] Like, let yourself be seen. Um, and just, yeah, like I. All of you is what the people want. I think my biggest struggle for a long time was, oh, you know, this is the only part that the people want to see, or the people want to pay. And [00:31:00] actually the part that you're hiding is the part that makes you the most you, which is gonna be the most successful piece of you.

[00:31:06] 'cause no one can, no one can copy that. No one can try and repeat that. Because it's you and it's your unique magic. 

[00:31:15] Andrea Elibero: Oh, what a good callback. Look at you. It's almost like you're a creative person or something. Oh yes. Love that. It's amazing and so inspirational, and thank you for sharing all of your wisdom with everybody.

[00:31:29] How can we all connect with you? And if you have any freebies or free gifts or anything like that, this is your space to share about that now. 

[00:31:36] Jessica Pye: Amazing. So you can connect with me on Instagram. My Instagram is the Jessica Pie, PYE. I've been repeating that surname since I was about four. Um, but the Jessica Pie.

[00:31:47] And if you click on the link of my bio, I have a free telegram broadcast, and that is called Fun and Money Unplugged. You've got the link to my paid one and my free one. So the free one, you have a weekly drop in there, and it's all [00:32:00] about how to create more money in your business whilst having the time of your live.

[00:32:04] You can clearly see that the vibe of us on this podcast today. So if you want more of that, please drop in. It's an incredible space. 

[00:32:11] Andrea Elibero: Amazing. Thank you so much. Now everybody go and paint something or step away from your laptop or go do something fun and thank you for being here. Jess, 

[00:32:19] Jessica Pye: thank you so much for being here.

[00:32:20] If anyone does go on their artist date, come and Ds both and let us know because I wanna know. I wanna see what you get up to. But thank you so much for having me, Andrea. 

[00:32:28] Andrea Elibero: Thank you so much for joining us today. I really hope you found inspiration and insights from today's episode. You know, scaling your business intentionally and from the inside out is a transformational process, but I'm here to support you every step of the way. Head on over to dancing leaf solutions.com/resources for free tools to help you do just that.

[00:32:54] And thank you again for being a part of the Solepreneur Scaling Stories community. Your presence and dedication to [00:33:00] growth inspiring me every day.